Ben Thigpen
Ben Thigpen (November 16, 1908 – October 5, 1971) was an American jazz drummer. He is the father of drummer Ed Thigpen. He was born Benjamin F. Thigpen in Laurel, Mississippi. Ben Thigpen played piano as a child, having been trained by his sister Eva. He played in South Bend, Indiana with Bobby Boswell in the 1920s, and then moved to Chicago to study under Jimmy Bertrand. While there he played with many noted Chicago bandleaders and performers, including Doc Cheatham. He played with Charlie Elgar's Creole Band during 1927-1929 but did not record with them. Following this he spent time in Cleveland with J. Frank Terry, and then became the drummer for Andy Kirk's Clouds of Joy, where he stayed from 1930 to 1947. Much of his work is available on collections highlighting the piano work of Mary Lou Williams, who also played in this ensemble. After his time with Kirk, Thigpen's career is poorly documented. He led his own quintet in St. Louis and recorded with Singleton Palmer in the 1960s. |
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Recordings
Company | Matrix No. | Size | First Recording Date | Title | Primary Performer | Description | Role | Audio |
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Decca | 60852 | 10-in. | 3/2/1936 | Walkin' and swingin'-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60853 | 10-in. | 3/2/1936 | Moten swing | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60854 | 10-in. | 3/2/1936 | Lotta sax appeal | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60861 | 10-in. | 3/3/1936 | Git | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums, vocalist | ||
Decca | 60862 | 10-in. | 3/3/1936 | All the jive is gone | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60865 | 10-in. | 3/4/1936 | Froggy bottom | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums, vocalist | ||
Decca | 60866 | 10-in. | 3/4/1936 | Bearcat shuffle | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60867 | 10-in. | 3/4/1936 | Steppin' pretty | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60874 | 10-in. | 3/7/1936 | Christopher Columbus | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60876 | 10-in. | 3/7/1936 | Corky-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60877 | 10-in. | 3/7/1936 | Corny rhythm | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60878 | 10-in. | 3/7/1936 | Overhand (New Froggy Bottom) | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60879 | 10-in. | 3/7/1936 | Isabelle | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60886 | 10-in. | 3/11/1936 | I'se a-muggin' | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60887 | 10-in. | 3/11/1936 | Until the real thing comes along | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60894 | 10-in. | 3/11/1936 | Swingin' for joy | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60895 | 10-in. | 3/11/1936 | Clean pickin' | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60961 | 10-in. | 3/31/1936 | Puddin' head serenade | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60972 | 10-in. | 4/2/1936 | Until the real thing comes along | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60973 | 10-in. | 4/3/1936 | Blue illusion | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 60974 | 10-in. | 4/3/1936 | Cloudy | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61003 | 10-in. | 4/7/1936 | Give her a pint (and she'll tell it all) | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61023 | 10-in. | 4/9/1936 | Mary's special | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61463 | 10-in. | 12/9/1936 | Fifty-Second Street | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61464 | 10-in. | 12/9/1936 | The lady who swings the band | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61465 | 10-in. | 12/9/1936 | What will I tell my heart? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61466 | 10-in. | 12/9/1936 | Dedicated to you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61598 | 10-in. | 2/15/1937 | Wednesday night hop | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61599 | 10-in. | 2/15/1937 | Skies are blue | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61950 | 10-in. | 2/15/1937 | Downstream | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 61951 | 10-in. | 2/15/1937 | In the groove | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62133 | 10-in. | 4/17/1937 | Worried over you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62134 | 10-in. | 4/17/1937 | Foolin' myself | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62135 | 10-in. | 4/17/1937 | I'm glad for your sake | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62136 | 10-in. | 4/17/1937 | I'll get along somehow | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62446 | 10-in. | 7/26/1937 | A mellow bit of rhythm | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62447 | 10-in. | 7/26/1937 | In my wildest dreams | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62448 | 10-in. | 7/26/1937 | Better luck next time | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62449 | 10-in. | 7/26/1937 | Satan takes a holiday | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62453 | 10-in. | 7/27/1937 | What's mine is yours | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62454 | 10-in. | 7/27/1937 | Why can't we do it again? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62455 | 10-in. | 7/27/1937 | The key to my heart | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62456 | 10-in. | 7/27/1937 | I want to be a gypsy | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62872 | 10-in. | 12/13/1937 | Lover come back to me | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62873 | 10-in. | 12/13/1937 | Poor butterfly | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62874 | 10-in. | 12/13/1937 | The big dipper | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 62875 | 10-in. | 12/13/1937 | Bear down | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 63255 | 10-in. | 2/8/1938 | I surrender dear | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 63256 | 10-in. | 2/8/1938 | Twinklin' | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 63257 | 10-in. | 2/8/1938 | It must be true | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 63258 | 10-in. | 2/8/1938 | I'll get by | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 63259 | 10-in. | 2/8/1938 | Little Joe from Chicago-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64612 | 10-in. | 9/9/1938 | The gal that wrecked my life | Rodney Sturgis | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64613 | 10-in. | 9/9/1938 | Bless you, my dear | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64614 | 10-in. | 9/9/1938 | How can we be wrong? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64615 | 10-in. | 9/9/1938 | Mess-a stomp-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64642 | 10-in. | 9/2/1938 | Toadie toddle | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64643 | 10-in. | 9/2/1938 | won't tell a soul (I love you) | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64644 | 10-in. | 9/2/1938 | What would people say? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64645 | 10-in. | 9/2/1938 | How much do you mean to me? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64662 | 10-in. | 9/14/1938 | The pearls | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64663 | 10-in. | 9/14/1938 | Mr. Freddie blues | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64664 | 10-in. | 9/14/1938 | Sweet (Patootie) Patunia | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64665 | 10-in. | 9/14/1938 | The rocks | Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64694 | 10-in. | 10/24/1938 | Jump Jack jump | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64695 | 10-in. | 10/24/1938 | Breeze | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64696 | 10-in. | 10/24/1938 | Ghost of love | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64697 | 10-in. | 10/24/1938 | What a life | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64698 | 10-in. | 10/25/1938 | Sittin' around and dreamin' | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64699 | 10-in. | 10/25/1938 | What's your story, morning glory? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64777 | 10-in. | 12/5/1938 | Honey | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64778 | 10-in. | 12/5/1938 | September in the rain | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64779 | 10-in. | 12/5/1938 | Clouds | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64780 | 10-in. | 12/5/1938 | Julius Caesar | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64781 | 10-in. | 12/5/1938 | Dunkin' a doughnut-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64782 | 10-in. | 12/6/1938 | Goodbye | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64783 | 10-in. | 12/6/1938 | Mary's idea-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64784 | 10-in. | 12/6/1938 | But it didn't mean a thinq | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 64785 | 10-in. | 12/6/1938 | Say it again | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65188 | 10-in. | 3/16/1939 | You set me on fire | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65189 | 10-in. | 3/16/1939 | I'll never learn | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65190 | 10-in. | 3/16/1939 | Close to five | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65191 | 10-in. | 3/16/1939 | Floyd's guitar blues-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65249 | 10-in. | 3/23/1939 | (I wanna go where you go) Then I'll be happy | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65250 | 10-in. | 3/23/1939 | S'posin' | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65251 | 10-in. | 3/23/1939 | I'll never fail you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 65252 | 10-in. | 3/23/1939 | Why don't I get wise to myself | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 66877 | 10-in. | 11/15/1939 | I'm getting nowhere with you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 66878 | 10-in. | 11/15/1939 | I don't stand a ghost of a chance with you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 66879 | 10-in. | 11/15/1939 | Please don't talk about me when I'm gone | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 66880 | 10-in. | 11/15/1939 | Big Jim blues-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67010 | 10-in. | 1/2/1940 | Wham (Wham-re-bop-boom-bam) | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67011 | 10-in. | 1/2/1940 | Love is the thing | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67012 | 10-in. | 1/2/1940 | Why go on pretending ? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67013 | 10-in. | 1/2/1940 | It always will be you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67893 | 10-in. | 6/25/1940 | Fine and mellow | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67894 | 10-in. | 6/25/1940 | Scratching in the gravel | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67895 | 10-in. | 6/25/1940 | Fifteen minute intermission | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67896 | 10-in. | 6/25/1940 | Take those blues away | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67917 | 10-in. | 7/8/1940 | Now I lay me down to dream | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67918 | 10-in. | 7/8/1940 | There is no greater love | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67919 | 10-in. | 7/8/1940 | Midnight stroll | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 67920 | 10-in. | 7/8/1940 | Little Miss | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68317 | 10-in. | 11/7/1940 | The Count | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68318 | 10-in. | 11/7/1940 | Twelfth Street rag | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68319 | 10-in. | 11/7/1940 | When I saw you | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68363 | 10-in. | 11/18/1940 | If I feel this way tomorrow | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68364 | 10-in. | 11/18/1940 | Or have I ? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68365 | 10-in. | 11/18/1940 | Baby dear | Kansas City Seven ; Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68366 | 10-in. | 11/18/1940 | Harmony blues | Kansas City Seven ; Mary Lou Williams | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68546 | 10-in. | 1/3/1941 | Cuban boogie woogie | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68547 | 10-in. | 1/3/1941 | A dream dropped in | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68548 | 10-in. | 1/3/1941 | Is it a sin (lovin' you) ? | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 68549 | 10-in. | 1/3/1941 | Ring dem bells | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 69519 | 10-in. | 7/17/1941 | Big time grip-1 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 69520 | 10-in. | 7/17/1941 | 47th Street jive | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 69521 | 10-in. | 7/17/1941 | I'm misunderstood | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 69522 | 10-in. | 7/17/1941 | No answer | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71050 | 10-in. | 7/14/1942 | Hey lawdy Mama | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71051 | 10-in. | 7/14/1942 | Boogie woogie cocktail | Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71052 | 10-in. | 7/14/1942 | Ride on, ride on | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71053 | 10-in. | 7/14/1942 | Mc Ghee special-2 | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71239 | 10-in. | 7/31/1942 | Worried life blues | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71240 | 10-in. | 7/31/1942 | Take it and git | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71241 | 10-in. | 7/31/1942 | Hip hip hooray | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71242 | 10-in. | 7/31/1942 | Unlucky blues | Andy Kirk ; Twelve Clouds of Joy | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71535 | 10-in. | 12/3/1943 | Shorty boo | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71536 | 10-in. | 12/3/1943 | Fare Thee well honey | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71537 | 10-in. | 12/3/1943 | Baby don't you tell me no lie | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 71538 | 10-in. | 12/3/1943 | Things 'bout comin' my way | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 73161 | 10-in. | 11/27/1945 | Get together with the Lord | The Jubalaires ; Andy Kirk | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 73162 | 10-in. | 11/27/1945 | I know | The Jubalaires ; Andy Kirk | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 73163 | 10-in. | 11/27/1945 | Soothe me | The Jubalaires ; Andy Kirk | instrumentalist, drums | ||
Decca | 73264 | 1/3/1946 | He's my baby | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73265 | 1/3/1946 | Alabama bound | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73266 | 1/3/1946 | Soothe me | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73267 | 1/3/1946 | Doggin' man blues | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73590 | 5/23/1946 | I don't know what I'd do without you | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73591 | 5/23/1946 | I'm so lonesome I could cry | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73751 | 12/2/1946 | Now you tell me | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73752 | 12/2/1946 | Louella | Andy Kirk Orchestra | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73753 | 12/2/1946 | So soon | The Four Knights | instrumentalist, drums | |||
Decca | 73754 | 12/2/1946 | I'm falling for you | The Four Knights | instrumentalist, drums |
Citation
Discography of American Historical Recordings, s.v. "Thigpen, Ben," accessed November 25, 2024, https://adpprod2.library.ucsb.edu/names/210119.
Thigpen, Ben. (2024). In Discography of American Historical Recordings. Retrieved November 25, 2024, from https://adpprod2.library.ucsb.edu/names/210119.
"Thigpen, Ben." Discography of American Historical Recordings. UC Santa Barbara Library, 2024. Web. 25 November 2024.
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